Meet Baxter, a revolutionary new category of Robot from Rethink Robotics that is capable of applying common sense behavior to manufacturing environments. Affordably priced, versatile and safe enough to work shoulder-to-shoulder with people, Baxter robots redefine how small, mid-size and large domestic manufacturers use automation to compete with manufacturers in low-cost regions of the world.
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The tacit …
The tacit implication is that full automation will occur at the point when it is? virtually free. This is incorrect; automation will in fact occur as soon as it is CHEAPER than human labour; not costless. The production line did not create free cars; neither will a fully automated factory. Materials are still scarce and thus attain a cost.
And you didn’t really address which of the following is wrong;
1. The factories will remain owned by a few.
2. This will not change, as nobody else earns.
No. Producing? …
No. Producing? services and products at near zero cost would lead to their price being near zero, however way you look at it. Large quantities will lead to low cost. When you also have machines making machines at low cost, you have a very near cycle of endless wealth.
How would the “elite” stop a poor man from buying a helper robot? (or why?). How did European elite stop US working class from buying cheap tools, cheap automobiles. Your claim on a fundamental level is just wrong.
I never said …
I never said anything about enslavement? You misunderstand me. The point is this: previous revolutions of automation (which come under the umbrella of the industrial revolution) did not create unemployment because the machines? were not agile and had no intelligence. Robotics and AI will change that; any job will be capable of automation. The upshot of this is that the robot and AI companies are owned by a small number of people, and everybody else has no means of making money.
Well you just made …
Well you just made a jump from the claim that
“[in] 20 years, and free market capitalism will give us a situation where the means of production? are entirely owned by a small elite, and the general population is completely unemployable.”, referring to human businessmen I believe,
to something like “in x years a general AI will enslave human beings”.
My argument remains the same for the first one. I’d say the latter one is quite far fetched at this point.
What’s a fallacy is …
What’s a fallacy is the faulty inference that because something has not happened before, it will? never happen. I don’t think I really need to flesh that out for you. The argument is obviously bunk.
In the past, automation has simply increased people’s time and skills, so that they could do even higher level jobs.
When robotics and AI reaches human levels, it is A PRIORI that this time the above will NOT occur, because by definition there would be zero jobs requiring humans.
It would mean a …
It would mean a near endless wealth for the common folks simply because the prices would be ludicrously low.
What you are implying is one of the biggest fallacies that people have about economics: it has? never in history been the case that replacing workforce with superior methods has led to poverty, quite the opposite, it has been the very reason of our current standard of living.
You can still dig ditches with a shovel if you disagree but it is a hard life. The rest of us will use machines.
Actually the US …
Actually the US military? is spending ludicrous amounts of money in robotics already. Visual pattern detection, flying drones, all that. I think some of their devices are already quite scary. I like Baxter here much more.
its slow and clumsy …
its slow and clumsy i dont? think any of these designers have ever worked a line you cant be slow or clumsy
You? mean like …
You? mean like Skynet ?
1:22 “Um,? I don’t …
1:22 “Um,? I don’t like you like that Jim. Get your arm off of me.”
“develop a robot …
“develop a robot that could go into some of these foreign countries and fight our wars”
That’s? the kind of thinking that got us into this mess.
The? voice is SO …
The? voice is SO cheesy. lol
Robotics are a …
Robotics are a great way of thinking,? but if you really want to impress me, develop a robot that could go into some of these foreign countries and fight our wars and spare the lives of humans. Better yet, develop a robot that could put an end to war period. Show me just how intelligent they could be. Apparently, humans are far from being that intelligent.
“… in our current …
“… in our current economic model… the opposite? happens.”
It doesn’t have to be that way … Look up The Zeitgeist Movement … as technology advances, it is our social economic model that needs to adjust to the new science. If we can do that it doesn’t have to turn into a global elitist society as we are becoming more open source and network (horizontal) based.
the robot of the …
the robot of the future is? here
I just don’t see an …
I just don’t see an “intelligent” robot in this century or next. Robots will be controlled by logic that was defined by a humanoid. There are evil humanoids therefore there will be evil robots, along with Christian humanoids who will develop Christian robots to defend against evil. AI found in computer games today is sad, they are basically drunken monkeys with unrealistically powerful? weapons.
Moores law applies …
Moores law applies to hardware, I’m not convinced the same? growth can be applied to creating human-like intelligence on the software side.
In 50 years …
In 50 years machines will be millions of times smarter than all of humanity combined. I don’t think it is smart? to create machines vastly smarter, stronger, and faster than us. Alas though, it is a natural phenomenon that is going to happen, Moore’s Law.
Also war is not good for the economy, if it were, America would be absolutely booming. Obama is bombing Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, and just last year Libya. He’s funding a proxy war in Syria and US soldiers are still in Iraq.
who? first teach …
who? first teach him fapfapfap?)))
now we need to put …
now we need to put Baxter on a? segway and he can deliver mail in the office.
Well the extreme …
Well the extreme irony is that ostensibly you have made a utopia in which physical labour is no longer possible and billions of people can happily subsist.
But of course, in our current economic model… the opposite happens.
I’m normally economically right wing, but in such utterly different circumstances as those that will be brought by? AI and robots, I can see that my paradigm will fall to pieces.
Ive worked in a few …
Ive worked in a few factories? and most of the jobs there involved picking up parts and pressing a button so that the machine could fix or weld the parts down, when they tried to automate lines it usually took a lot of work and re-aranging of the lines so I would imagine this could make the process a lot quicker and cost effective especially as the robots are not just specific to one job or process.
… or massive gas …
… or massive gas chambers. Still, they won’t be short of labour to operate? them.
Intel Inside? ? …
Intel Inside? ? More like Skynet Inside.
Give it 20 years, …
Give it 20 years, and free market capitalism will give us a situation where the means of production are entirely owned by a small? elite, and the general population is completely unemployable.
Will be very interesting for sure; definitely it will require a massive rethought of economic philosophy.
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